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Review: NationPoint, 2/5.

    NationPoint is a lender. In fact, they ended up being thee lender in our equation. We used them to purchase our house.

    I've discovered that everyone sounds great before the sale goes through, once they have you under contract or with money committed to the table, things oftentimes get a little more rocky. I'm afraid that NationPoint was an example of this.

   I received a call from one of their Senior Loan Consultants. He promised me that they could offer me a loan with good rates even though I had a high debt-to-income ratio. After talking to several other loan companies I decided NationPoint was my best bet. They had a great Better Business Bureau rating and where a large, nationwide company.

   Things rolled along somewhat smoothly at first. I didn't really know what I was doing, but I answered lots of questions. Eventually I received a notice that my loan disclosures where available on their website. This was were the first significant bumps in the road arose. I clicked on the link. I logged in. No disclosures. I called my loan consultant, he informed me he would have their disclosure department send the disclosures through again. Again I checked, again no disclosures. He told me not to worry, that the disclosures were in the mail. I was getting nervous. The disclosures finally came.

   Somewhere around now was when we moved the purchase price up by $5,000. Originally we had requested $5,000 in seller's assist from the seller. They had agreed, this was the maximum that Weichert was allowed to offer in the loan (those we had previously been looking at a loan through). I was concerned. The loan consultant had told me we were close to our debt-to-income ratio, but now he told me they could offer us another $5,000 in seller's assist for a total of $10,000. This would help us get over the hump of closing closts, but would it put us over the debt-to-income ration? He assured me we were fine.

   My wife was in the unusual position of having graduated and at the same time planning on returning to school in the fall. I was unsure I would be able to get deferment letters from the loan companies so I asked my loan officer if we would still be okay if we couldn't get the deferment letters, he assured me we would still be okay.

   He handed me off to the loan processor. She was nice. She had a nice voice. She asked for information and I gave it to her. Things were quite for a little while. We received the home inspection report, we gave it to her. She told me that we could waive the report and not have to repair the carpenter ant problem. My real estate agent was at this point calling both loan officer and loan processor on an almost daily basis asking, "Are we good for closing?" The reply was always yes. I asked the same.

   At the last moment, the day before closing I received several frustrating replies. They told us that we needed to get the carpenter ants cleaned out and they said that our deferment letters were not satisfactory (did not go out 6 mo.) and that we no longer fit in the debt-to-income ratio. After days of asking if everything was okay, we were utterly frustrated. Especially since we had addressed both of these issues earlier and had been assured that they would not be an issue.

   The loan officer worked the problem. Eventually they received permission to waive the requirement of the deferment letters, thus bringing us back into the debt-to-income ratio. I also, immediately, scheduled a exterminator and they took care of the carpenter ant problem. The money was to come in before the newly rescheduled closing.

   I called to ensure everything would be okay and was ensured that it would be. I pressed for the money to be wired early so it could be available on the closing date and we were told that it could be. Then I called, it was noon. I was informed that the money had not been wired and that they did not perform wires after noon, therefore it would be sent out at 9:30 a.m. the day of closing. I told them that we were closing at 9, they said not to worry about it.

   The next morning our fingers itched as we waited for the wire. The hours passed. The sellers waited. I called. "Where is the wire?" "We didn't send it out at 9:30 a.m. We were waiting for paperwork." Okay, it didn't go out on time. But several hours had passed. When will it get here. "Well, we submitted the request for the wire, but it takes a few hours to process." I was deceived. Couldn't you have told me the day before that the money took time to transfer? That it wouldn't be ready at 9:30 a.m.? I could have pushed back the closing. Instead I signed reams of legal documents and began moving into the house before I even knew that the money had definetly come through. What a nerve-wracking experience.

Negatives:

  • False promises.
  • Failure to return phone calls.
  • Failure of web based system.
  • Failure to regularly advise of status of loan.
  • Failure to follow-up regarding trouble issues.

Positives:

  • Did wire the money eventually.
  • Was able to offer reasonable interest rates.
  • Was able to help us even in our unusual situation.
Summary: Our experience with NationPoint was filled with weaknesses. NationPoint accomplished the job but not without much hand-wringing on our parts. I could not recommend NationPoint to anyone seeking a loan, though I have no better options. NationPoint was able to offer us some unique things - lower rates and unique help in a difficult financial situation - but this does not outweigh the heavy failure to communicate and the miscommunications or downright false communications which occurred. 

 June 06, 2007 Update:

     Its been around a year since we first established contact with NationPoint and in a little over two months it will be a year since I first published this blog article. Its funny how topics you didn't ever intend to become main focuses of conversation did. These days if you do a search for "Nation Point review" or "NationPoint" you will find this blog posting come up right near the top. Not to mention the many comments I have received from consumers like myself as well as from loan officers with NationPoint. I figured it was my duty to take a few minutes to update everyone on my experience with NationPoint.

    After closing the sale I haven't really heard from NationPoint again - except to receive my monthly bills. I receive two bills every month - one for my first mortgage, one for my second. I've paid them regularly and haven't had any problems to speak of. I use their website somewhat regularly and it is a little bulky, but overall gets the job done. My post-purchase experience has been much better than the pre-purchase experience. Not to say that I would now recommend NationPoint any more highly. In fact, the growing number of comments from consumers that seem heavily negative concerns me more than my initial observations.

    I intend to keep this blog post here for the foreseeable future and I hope consumers, potential consumers, loan officers, etc. will all take the opportunity to continue posting their thoughts on NationPoint here. Thanks for the unexpected opportunity you have all given me to interact with you and share my thoughts as well as hear yours. 

Comments

 

Tom Johnson said:

To Mr. Dave Mackey,

My wife and I are also in an unusual position while attempting to obtain financing for a new home. I contacted Nationpoint today and they appear to be honest and upfront. I've been attempting to obtain a mortgage for several months now and keep running into one main obstacle. I've just initiated the process with Nationpoint, and because of false guarantees from other lenders, I'm extremely cautious. I'm at the point where I'll do whatever it takes to get the deal done. I understand I'm not in the position to be picky, and I can only hope that all goes well with Nationpoint. I'd like to chat with you about your experience. What do you think based on your experience. If I'm willing to be patient, do you think this is the company to go with? Thanks for your time.

February 23, 2007 5:30 PM
 

admin said:

Mr. Johnson,

  Thanks for writing. I will drop this comment to you by email as well, but figured I would post it here to help others who might be in a similar predicament. Since you are in a predicament where other loan companies will not finance you, you may want to check out Nationwide. The experience may be quite harrowing, since everything can appear fine and if your experience copies mine, things suddenly spring up that seemed to have been nailed down. But in the end, they seemed able to get me a loan that many other companies couldn't at a pretty good rate.

   It was a tremendously stressful experience and I wouldn't go with the company for future purchases if I can avoid it. On the other hand, they did get the job done - eventually.

   But I'm just a consumer, not someone really qualified to speak on such matters, so take my advice with a grain of salt. :-) Best of luck.

David.

February 24, 2007 10:41 AM
 

Evan Smith said:

Interesting.  I, too, just went through the preliminaries with NationPoint to the point of the infamous "online disclosures" and guess what!  Yep!  There's a "problem with the system" so I can keep on checking to see if it's fixed or just wait for the stuff in the mail.  

Does anyone know why they do this?  It sounds like a habit and part of their "process".  However, like in your situation, they're the best bet at this point and I'm committed since I don't have any other options.

I'd be interested in knowing how your experience has been since the first post.  I'll check back later to see if there are any responses but meanwhile, one can reach me at evan.smith@yahoo.com .

March 9, 2007 7:00 AM
 

Steven G. said:

I Work at NationPoint!  That was an unfortunate experience you had.  Generally we do have extended guidline to best fit your needs.  Your situation was resolved and I am sure that the Loan Consultant felt bad it was something that was not caught.  That is not really there Job though.  The banks Underwritters are the ones that find the weak points or issues in your file.  That is why we do buisness the way we do.  When they told  you everything was good I am sure they truely believed that.  If you have any questions on how that works call me at 1-800-829-7646 and I will be glad to explain.

March 9, 2007 4:13 PM
 

Steven G said:

i meant 1800 770 4277 x-7646

March 9, 2007 4:14 PM
 

Flor Gressel said:

Hi, NationPoint was the first lender that would help me get a loan. Joseph Yang is great. He is always available anytime. I'm not happy with the rates, but my financial situation ie. debt to income is such that many other lenders couldn't help me. Wells fargo made me promises but in the end they couldn't do much better.They gave me a slightly lower rate on the first 6.25 but about the ame on the second. Wells fargo's fees were less but the bottom line for me is the monthly mortgage.

April 8, 2007 11:40 AM
 

Linda said:

My husband and I currently have a loan through NationPoint.  We had very similar issues during the loan process that Mr Mackey encountered. It was a very painful experience (my husband was on the verge of wanting to strangle the loan officer), but it did work out in the end.

We ran into a very negative experience recently with NationPoint when we called them about the pending sale of our home end of April 2007.  Since there is a prepayment penalty on our loan with them we asked them if we financed our new home through them if they would waive the penalty.  The loan officer said that under no circumstances would they waive the penalty.  I told him that made no sense - why would they pass up financing a 400,000 loan over a 5,500 prepayment penalty?  He said that it is because of the strict policies put in place since they were acquired by Merrill Lynch.  

So, we are going to just pay the prepay and give our new loan business to another company who is not affiliated with Merrill Lynch.  Any company who will not work with its current customer base does not deserve their business.

Linda

April 25, 2007 10:57 AM
 

Rocky said:

Hello everyone. I work as a loan consultant for NationPoint. I have been in this line of work for over 6 years and I can honestly say that every single situation that has been presented here is somewhat unique. My experience in working in this field is that everyone's situation is like your own DNA. There is so much that takes place in taking a loan from A to Z and having it go smoothly. I can assure you that when all the other lenders said NO, we will say YES in doing the loan. This is by far one of the most emotional and stressful processes and when you prepare yourself to know that there are going to be bumps in the road, then that might be a bit easier to accept the unpredicted situations. We are human beings with a willful heart to make people happy and work hard to do what it takes to get there. No, we are not perfect, but we always strive for it everyday. I can assure that in all my years of experience, this is one of the greatest companies that will be in business for many years to come. I can assure you, there are a lot of happy families right now owning homes that they only dreamed of having one day.

Cheers and make it a great day.

Thank you.

April 26, 2007 3:51 PM
 

Mari said:

I just spoke with somebody at Nationpoint & he was actually very helpful.  My husband & I are rookies at this, and he gave me all the right answers.  We are definitley looking into using Nationpoint.  It sounds like a few people had bumpy roads but all go thru them.

April 30, 2007 8:35 PM
 

JOE B said:

HELLO  ALL , I WORK FOR WILSHIRE AND WE JUST RECENTLY JOINED ARMS WITH NATION POINT TO ALLOW OPTIONS FOR THE POOR SOULS CAUGHT IN THOSE AWFUL ADJUSTABLE RATE MORTGAGES, I AM PROUD TO HAVE THEM AS OUR SISTER COMPANY AND CAN'T WAIT UNTIL WE IMPLEMENT AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM FOR PRESCREENING GOOD LOANS . LETS MAKE IT HAPPEN NATIONPOINT, SOON IS BETTER. TTYL

May 9, 2007 12:48 AM
 

KEVIN said:

I HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH NATIONPOINT FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS AND EVERYTHING HAS BEEN VERY SMOOTH SO FAR. WE ARE LOOKING AT A CLOSING DATE OF ABOUT JULY 1ST -7TH... WE DON'T HAVE A DATE WRITTEN IN STONE YET. ANYWAYS, OUR LOAN OFFICER IS SHERMAN PARSA AND YOU COULDN'T ASK FOR A BETTER GUY TO DEAL WITH. I HAVE READ THE FEW HORROR STORIES ABOUT NATIONPOINT BUT WHEN IT ALL COMES DOWN TO IT... NATIONPOINT ALWAYS GETS THE JOB DONE WHEN OTHERS DON'T , AND ANOTHER WAY YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT IS THINGS CAN ALWAYS COME UP AND SOMETIMES THING CAN BE OVERLOOKED. WE ARE ALL HUMAN AND ARE EXPECTED TO MAKE A MISTAKE NOW AND THEN, WE HATE TO SAY IT BUT ITS A FACT. I WOULD HIGHLY SUGGEST TO ANYTHING THAT NATIONPOINT IS THE WAY TO GO!!!

May 30, 2007 9:03 PM
 

Isabel said:

Let me tell you my experience with NationPoint....  

The processor and officer had the details about the condo I wanted to purchase for two months.  All the documentation was sent to them which specified that the condominiums were in Phase 1 construction.  I specified to them initially and on several occasions that it was a new condominium complex and the grand opening wouldn't be for a few weeks.  We continued with the loan process and I provided every piece of documentation I was asked for.  We were set to close the middle of May.  

I should have known that after dealing with four different people on the loan (apparently this company has a high turn over rate) that I should have expected that it would only lead to trouble.

The morning of the closing I was contacted by NationPoint and told, "After putting the loan through final review, it turns out the property is ineligible for financing from us because 70% of the property isn't occupied."

I said, "Wait a second, you guys knew from the very beginning that this unit was new construction, you knew from the beginning that only phase one was complete.  You knew from the beginning that I would probably be one of the first owners to move in."  

All I was told was "I'm sorry, it was originally signed off and overlooked, but in the final review the mistake on our end was caught and we can't finance that property for you."

Again, this company had the information on the unit for two months...  I was supposed to move out of my apartment the very next day and I had no where
to go.  I've had to rent a storage unit to store my belongings and I'm having to stay at a hotel since I have no family here and my husband is a Marine over 2600 miles away from me at the time.  

The incompetence of the personnel at NationPoint really left me in a bind and now I'm the one having to pay for someone else's careless mistake.  

I understand that there are procedures and requirements, however, if I would have known two months ago that the unit was ineligible for financing through NationPoint, I could have easily gone with a different mortgage company who would finance the unit.  Instead I put my trust in NationPoint and now I'm left with a couple of I'm sorries from people who don't really care about the predicament they have left me in.  

This is my first time purchasing a new home, not only has it turned into a nightmare, but it has literally left me homeless with no where to go.  

In my line of work only the best of me is expected.  There are no mistakes allowed.  Mistakes can literally mean people's lives.  I'm held to a high standard and I expect the same high standard from people I entrust my personal business to.  

Now the money that I had saved up for closing has to go to paying for a hotel until I can figure out what to do next, who knows how long that will be.

I guess this is what happens when you look for a lender on the internet.

May 31, 2007 12:18 AM
 

Tony said:

We have just gone through the process of trying to acquire a mortgage loan from Nation Point, and I have to tell you we have never dealt with more incompetent shysters in our lives. If you ask me it is nothing more than the old bait and switch. We were days away from closing, and we have had our documentation in to them for months and they kept telling us that they hadn't received documents from the title company, which we found to be a lie since it happened to be my cousin who was working at the title company and she said she sent the documents to them quite some time earlier. They would also claim to have spoken to people only later to find that not to be true, such as the case with my cousin at the title company, then they said the appraisal was ordered late because we told them to hold off, which was another lie. The entire time we got nothing but assurances that everything would work out with no problems. Then on the day of closing they said they were waiting to get the appraisal and there was no way to get it in time to close, which was another lie because our real estate agent knew the people doing the closing and called them, they said they would have it to them in plenty of time to do the closing. Then they said they would have to get an approval from corporate to extend the lock date since they dragged their feet so long that the contract for the locked interest rate expired. Every time we would satisfy their supposed criteria, they would come up with some other issue. Needless to say we were not able to close the deal for that contract, but conveniently enough they were happy to do a new contract for more money down and a higher interest rate. Based on the assurances from our Nation Point representatives that there would absolutely be no problems, we now have all of our belongings sitting in a moving truck in storage with no place to put them. I believe they intentionally put us in a compromising position so that we would have no choice but to accept their "new deal". At this point we are devastated, and Nation Point could care less. If you decide to do business with these people I pray to God you have a better experience than we did.

June 6, 2007 8:23 AM
 

Tony said:

I am another loan officer with Nationpoint. I have been involved with several loans that sound just like the horror stories mentioned in this blog, & it hurts me to cancel a loan, just as it hurts you, the borrower. We will fight as hard as we can to make that loan go thru for you. At some point though, our hands are tied. I could go on and on about why your loan terms changed, you couldn't get out of the prepay, or why your loan just didn't close. The bottom line is that we want to close your loan. In today's current market for mortgages, it is getting harder and harder to close a loan with every passing day though. Mortgage foreclosures are at all time highs. Mortgage fraud is very prevalent at this time. To top it off, the cooling in the housing market has killed our business for refinances in many ways as well. Our guidelines change constantly because of these factors. If we have to make changes, so are the other banks! That is what we have to do to survive these times. Buying a home is one of the most stressful times you will encounter because there is always uncertainty out there regarding your loan. Again, I cannot stress enough, We will fight as hard as we can to make that loan go thru for you! If we can't do it, try another lender. It is never too late to try that. Often times, if we cannot do the loan, then no other lender can as well. You will notice the lady with the condo mentioned she is stuck in a hotel. Why didn't she go with another lender? She still had time to. I would bet the farm on the fact that it is because no other lender could touch that property as well. The reality is that not everyone qualifies for the loan they want, and not every home qualifies under our's or any other banks lending guidelines. Poor communication is a personal thing and cannot be tied to a company as a whole. There are over 100 L/Os in this office and there is always the possibility of a bad apple in the bunch. With this said, in the end, we are still able to put people in homes that no other lender is able to do. Also, in a time when many lenders are further restricting their lending capabilities, we are still giving people as close to what they want as possible.

July 18, 2007 2:52 PM
 

Rocky4884 said:

I am another borrower taken for a ride by NationPoint. I applied for a loan 2 years ago (2005) and was told/quoted for 30 year fixed at a good rate. I was told we will approve the loan in 10 business days and dragged for more than 20 days, I was left with only 10 days to close the deal. During these 10 days the Sr. loan officer would not confirm or return my calls about the progress. After 8 days he came back saying since it is condo the rates would be up by .25 %. I had no option but to agree, while they knew it was a condo from the beginning. Then on the 9th day, I was told we cannot do a 30 year fixed as the program intended for you is not operational anymore. I was offered a 2 year ARM with a very high interest on the second loan. Recently when RAM was reset iIcalled them up to refinance and the Sr. loan officer said we cannot do anything as this is how mortgage business works. I would strictly advise to stay away from NationPoint at any cost. They will exploit your weakness of getting a home and they are good at it...

August 6, 2007 6:03 PM
 

missingdavis said:

Interesting all this stuff about NationPoint. We had no problem with closing, and nothing was changed in our deal. BUT, shortly after closing, NationPoint "forgot" to pay our property taxes, although we had an escrow with them. It took several phone calls to get things straightened out with both NationPoint and the County. Several months later, when I reviewed the balance in our escrow, it was down nearly $700 from where it should be. Turned out, the closing fee NationPoint was supposed to pay to Lending Tree (a "Paid by Lender" fee, not paid by borrower) "accidentally" got deducted from our account. They replaced the money, but I wonder how many people actually know when this happens? I'm fairly comfortable reading closing statements, but otherwise would have had no idea they used our $700. So, although everything else has been smooth, I would just say keep an eye on them!
September 8, 2007 5:08 PM
 

mildred said:

I have a loan with Nationpoint..it is right at the two year mark..

they notified me that the interest rate is going way up...my payment now is $377 a month....it is going to increase....125.00......i think that is huge...i understand they maybe should increase the rate...my credit is not so good...but...i have never missed a payment or been late....ever...not once...

but  because i have other financial troubles....they are laying it on me...

i personally think that is stupid...especially when there are many people that are not even paying the payments they originally agreed to...

i have put in for a hardship case to Nationpoint...they are going to review my account....and process the case....

my rate is supposed to go up....on the 1st on Jan...

i will post a reply from them...

i hope it is a good post.....i am keeping my fingers crossed..

i must admit...getting the loan from them was a bit like pulling teeth....many steps to the process...

but i understand....it takes time....and it is just that....a process.....but it was frustrating to say the least...

o.k.....i wish all well...

and thanks for having a place to air our complaints....or ideas...

i do think they are a bit on the shady side...but..i think that about most mortgage companies...to tell the truth...

November 2, 2007 10:51 PM
 

Mark S. said:

Just to let you all know, NationPoint had another layoff today. They laidoff >70 people. This is second layoff in the past 2 months. First time around they let go 60 something people.

I would think twice before doing business with NationPoint. It will be a miracle if they don't close the doors soon.

November 16, 2007 3:21 PM
 

BB said:

I work at NationPoint also and would like to interject some points:

- Buying or refinancing a house is very different then lets say buying a car...there are alot of pieces which need to fit together to make everything work and sometimes this takes time.  If you were lending thousands of dollars of your own money, wouldn't you want to make sure you are making a good decision? Ultimately, investors buy the loans using specific guidelines.

-People who took out ARM loans should have known that there is a possiblilty their rate would increase in the future. Everything is disclosed upfront and again at closing which must be signed. Ignorance is no excuse here. Realty is that interest rates which ARM loans are based off of have gone up in the past few years. Alot of people opted for a lower payment initially instead of playing it safe and going for a 30-year fixed loan. These days, there is so much more opportunity for consumers to educate themselves by use of the internet so there is no excuse here really.

-Current market conditions make it much harder to get financing, especially if you have shaky credit and your house has gone down in value.

-Loans are bundled up into packages and sold on Wall Street in bundles of millions of dollars to investors. The days of a single bank using their own money are for the most part gone!

-For each complaint posted here, there are hundreds of other happy and satisfied customers who have closed loans successfully through NationPoint. "Bad" experiences happen with every company in every industry.

-Admittedly, the NationPoint online disclosure system sucks and is in the process of being fixed in the next few months.

November 26, 2007 10:20 PM
 

Andrew said:

I just read this blog and thought I would post a comment.  I have had my mortgage with Nationpoint for two years now.  Rewind back two years, and I was baited and switched by good ole Quicken.  Found Nationpoint online and my request for info was followed up immediately with a call.  I had no problems at all during the loan and closing process and was able to get a fixed rate on both mortgages, which was important to me.  

I think a common theme amongst some complaints above is the face that the borrower did not do their homework.  Yes,  an ARM will increase your payment eventually.  Yes, a prepayment penalty might not be waived.  It's in the contract.

My only compaint, is that as far as I can tell, there is no way to use electronic payment over the web.  I HATE having to mail in two checks each month because it seems to take about 5 days from when the check is received until it clears.  No big deal, but an instant payment online would be so much more convenient.  Get with the times.  This would cut down costs on the Nationpoint end (processing, CSR's, check fees) and increase convenience for borrowers; Win Win.

January 2, 2008 7:12 PM
 

mike said:

I have been in the lending industry for years and all of the comments I am reading are very common. There are two main reasons why people have a rough road during the loan process.

First, people never tell the whole truth when they are applying for a loan. They constantly leave out details regarding their finacial, employment, credit, alimony/child support, personal history that usually would require additional documentation during the loan. For example, dates of employment are rarely accurate. So when the lender verifies this and it isn't accurate they want additional proof. And not from your co-worker... a formal HR document. That can take weeks sometimes depending the company. The difference between 23 months or 24 months on the job can make all the difference in the world during the underwriting process. Or not disclosing that you were on disability for 2 months in the last year. So on and so forth...

They assume that if they don't tell it will won't come up or it doesn't matter. Changes in the purchase price of a home, rounding up income numbers, not disclosing tax liens, late payments, wrong job title, employment gaps, a property that doesn't appraise well...the list can go on for ever. These all add time and frustration to the loan process...And these things can also flag your loan to be reviewed which can add additional time or cancel a loan all together.

Are these all reasons to blame your lender? Not!  When you apply for a loan everything you tell a loan officer as he is filling out your application is going to be verified with applicable and legal documentation. 80% of all issues arrise when the documentation does not support in the information originally submitted. Everytime you make a change the loan needs to be reunderwritten which often requires additional information or documentation needed to close the loan. So when you asked "is everything ok with my loan" and the loan officer said "yes" he/she was accurate at the time. The loan process is dynamic...it changes to reflect all the information and documentation collected throughout the entire loan process.

The second reason there are head aches during the loan process is that the property doesn't appraise well. For example, There are not enough comps, the comps used are too far or too old, the comps are not similar properties, it's in a declining market...on and on. This is one area that most borrowers do not understand. But a lender has specific guidelines to determine value and may not like the appraisers opinion.

I could go on for days...the point is don't be so quick to start pointing blame because many times customers create their own headaches!

February 5, 2008 12:53 AM
 

best refinance loan officer said:

Nationpoint closed it's doors today. No more bitching necessary. 650 americans jobless and headed to unemployment rolls for us all to pay for "out of pocket".

March 5, 2008 8:11 PM
 

Evan Smith said:

I posted a comment back on March 9, 2007 as I was going through the loan process.  I have to say that my loans went through incredibly fast and I closed less than a month after my comment on this site.  I went into the 3 year ARMs with my eyes wide open but I have always expected to refinance.  My home was an estate sale, extremely under-priced, was not appraised in person although I was charged for a full appraisal, not a "drive by" which is what occurred, and I've put in over $25,000 of work into it.  I called NationPoint about a refinance and the guy on the other ended all but laughed at me saying that there's no way any home has appreciated more than 10% in the past year.  Guess what?  Mine did.  Over 43% even with everything that's going on and I'm getting better and better credit as time goes by.  Yeah, NationPoint helped me get in there (right on the heels of this crisis), but I've got to go through a local (and "in person") lender to refinance since there's no way they can appreciate the housing market in my area which isn't like the rest of the country, apparently.  Anyway, I just tried to check out their site and there's nothing there but a link to customer services.  Interesting...

March 18, 2008 5:22 PM
 

Evan Smith said:

I just posted another comment and checked out the news on NationPoint.  They've shut down and Home Loan Services which services their loans is on the bidding block.

March 18, 2008 5:27 PM
 

Jay H said:

Im really sorry to hear so many negative complaints against NationPoint.

We purchased our home last year and couldn't have been more pleased with the results from beginning to end.Everyone we spoke to followed through with what they said they woud do.

Im not taking sides but just wanted to say that our experiance was a good one.

Erik R. was our senior lendind officer and he worked very hard to get our financing approved.

May 12, 2008 8:25 PM
 

Tina said:

I went through the same ordeal on the day of the closing, I was told I was approved, then I wasn't , then I was. The loan officer lied about my income for me to get approved but he never told me that. Now I am approved for shortsale due to financial hardship and in risk of foreclosure because of the market. I just wish he was honest in saying that the loan wasn't reasonable instead of making it sound so easy. Did I mention that I don't live there and I was just doing a favor for my exes parents? They are the ones who can't pay. I am sorry I would not recomend them to anyone. Also be wary of them putting 2 mortgages like mine, that disqualifies you for other options besides foreclosure. It sounds nice with no money down, but look ahead and remember financial situations change. Good luck all

May 26, 2008 6:45 AM
 

Mary W said:

I had a few difficulties prior to closing, but nothing too serious.  However, I just received a notice that my ARM had been converted to a 30 year.   It doesn't seem right that this could be done without consultation or paperwork or anything.  Since it was a higher rate than the typical 30 year fixed, I can't see how this benefits me--and I'm sort of suspicious.

Has this happened to anyone else?  

July 26, 2008 1:19 PM
 

AR said:

I actually was a loan officer for NationPoint, who I had never heard of until I got a call one day from their recruiter. After approaching me, the recruiter had identified herself as the former recruiter for E-Trade, a company with whom I was in discussion with regarding employment. After this introduction, and her sales pitch I thought I would check the company out. From the outside, and inside, NationPoint was a better than average mortgage company. Since the nature of the busiess is a multitude of fires during the 30 day or so loan process, I dont think it is fair to blame any company for "unexpected" occurances during the loan process. Often enoeugh it is niether the loan officer's or the customers fault for any unexpected requests, changes, fires, or otherwise unpleasant experiences during the loan process.

My first impressin of NationPoint was positive. They had a good group of educated persons in management which I think is important for any company, but especially for Mortgage Companies (to address issues such as long-term growth, vs short-term growth). The training was very comprehensive. This is one part of the NationPoint experience I cannot say eneough good things about. Most loan officers are just sales people that are good at pitching. This is probably one of the several reasons that there is a mortgage cirisis right now. NationPoint made it their duty to educate each and every loan officer on the basics of mortgage sales, product knowledge, underwriting guidelines, and general sales knowledge. This training lasted a whole 30-days, which is unheard of in most Mortgage shops. They really did care about the loan officer representing the company in the correct manner, and it showed. Their facilities were also more than adequate, their pay plan itself was decent, and benefits were good.

The thing that NationPoint was a little below average at was delivering a competitive product for a lot of customers. I stayed there for a two-three months after training, and in that time I was able to fund 6 loans in one month. The negative of that was I only made a little under a grand commission on all of the deals. For the amount of work I put in, I believe this was a drastic undercompensation. After all, I was dialing about 100 numbers a day to get a loan, and still competing with other lenders on the rates. Another part that made me a litlte unhappy was the overall promise made when I was offered a position. The promise was that if I worked hard and kept with the program, within 3 months I should see some progress. Once I was actually hired, this timeframe became more like 6 months to a year. I basically had made a dicision to work with NP vs E-Trade, based on various factors including the advice from a former recruiter of E-Trade, who had happened to become the recruiter of NP. In the end, NP was my last mortgage company I worked for. I guess things work out for the best in the end. Overall, NP was a good company, with a little bit higher rates, and a good group of people working there.

September 12, 2008 12:36 PM

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